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Residents of Ski Time Square Condos without parking after structure closed

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A fence and a sign announcing to residents that the parking lot, long used by residents of Ski Time Square Condominiums, has been closed by officials.
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For nearly a month, Kathy Vanderwerk, a longtime resident of her Ski Time Square condominium, wondered how her life was going after local authorities closed the parking lot she relied on for being too dangerous. I was thinking about how it would change.

“30th, we got 30th,” said Vanderwerk, who is considering paying up to $500 a month to store the SUV off Elk River Road. “I shouldn’t be on my legs for long.

“I have to shuttle to my car and do some grocery shopping.Then I try to get some kind of parking here. It has to be delivered to the unit, I have to go back to my car, store it, then walk miles to the shuttle and stay on the shuttle until I get home.”



In fact, she’s still struggling to come up with a plan for how she’ll handle day-to-day life activities after the parking lot was fenced off and closed on Oct. 10. The Routt County Building Department, which actually represents the city because it’s located inside Steamboat Springs.

“The building department was required to list this structure as dangerous goods on October 10, 2022 and issue a violation notice based on documentation provided by the property owner,” said Todd, a building official. Mr Carr said. “The document we received was a copy of an email provided by an engineer hired by the (Ski Time Square) HOA to assess the condition of the building. and stated that the building needed to be evacuated immediately.”



Kerr said the building department conducted a field survey on Oct. 12 and found that temporary shoring jacks installed along the south and north exterior walls were installed to support the load-bearing ends of the parking structure. I have confirmed that it may be in use.

“Temporary shoring is not a permanent approved method of supporting building loads, so we maintain that the dangerous building notice is justified,” Carr said. The notice of violation requested that the property be kept vacant until the owner hired a structural engineering firm to properly evaluate the building and provide a full report for review at the end of the evaluation.”

Carr said a code-compliant process and violation notice provided to owners would allow the building to be repaired or demolished, with the property owner responsible for that decision.

A condominium resident in Ski Time Square found himself in early October after building officials declared the structure unsafe.
John F. Russell/Steamboat Pilot & Today

Residents like Cheri Arnold, who bought her unit in 2012, hope to eventually live there full-time when she retires, and are working with the property’s developer, DBT, to find a compromise. hope to find Now Ski Times Square HOA leases the parking lot for his 98 years.

“This is so new that I don’t know,” said Arnold. “I hope there is some kind of compromise and at least maybe temporarily something that will strengthen it for the season and work things out with DBT who can actually make some good decisions. move forward.”

Arnold and her daughter have lived in Steamboat for the past two years. Her daughter works full time at the front desk and also has a seasonal job at the Sheraton. But Arnold said her unit will be empty this year and her plans to have her family over the winter won’t come to fruition.

“We were going to stay, but after hearing about this we said no,” said Arnold. “We wanted her daughter to come see us for Thanksgiving and have another daughter in California, but she doesn’t have a place to park.

The Ski Time Square condo building has a long history, says resident and HOA board member Marcus Freskez, who provided a four-page overview of the building and a copy of the lease agreement that provides parking for the condo.

The parking lot behind the former tugboat building at Ski Time Square closed on October 10, 2022 after the safety of the building was questioned by building officials in the early 1970s, and Ski Time Square has been in operation since then. The condo has been leased by HOA.
John F. Russell/Steamboat Pilot & Today

According to Fresques documents, the five-story, 80-unit building at the base of Steamboat Resort was constructed by Sunray Land Corporation in the early 1970s as part of a four-acre-plus development called Ski Time Square Plaza. .

Originally there was a small above-ground parking lot of less than 20 cars and an open parking structure behind the condo building accessed from Burgess Creek Road. At the time, the resident moved into his third-floor apartment at the back of the building. After the apartment building was completed in 1972, the parking lot collapsed.

As part of the development of Ski Time Square Plaza, a number of buildings consisting of retail spaces, restaurants and other condominiums were constructed. The parking lot above the garage was used by other Sunray tenants and guests in surrounding buildings. Once the Ski Time Square Condominium was installed, the condominium was separated from the rest of the development. The remaining area is followed by a small number of owners.

The documents also state that Ski Time Square Condominiums HOA currently has a 98-year lease for the underground parking lot, ending in October 2072. HOA, and it’s also working on an easement as well as a protection contract for a grassy quadrangle directly in front of an apartment building adjacent to Burgess Creek.

Over the years the property and parking lot have been sold several times. Sometime in his 1970s, Sunray sold the land and buildings in Ski Times Square to Ski Times Square Enterprises. Then, in April 2007, STSE sold the Ski Time Square area to He Cafritz Interests LLC.

Kafritz had plans to develop Ski Time Square, including the demolition of the car park structure, and was working with HOA on the placement of the new car park. However, Cavritz found him embroiled in the financial recession of 2008, and he eventually had to return the land to Fortress in 2010 instead of repaying the loan Cavritz had taken to purchase the property. did not. The property was then purchased from Fortress by DBT Development Group in September 2019.

The parking deck above the garage is leased by both Fortress and DBT to Steamboat Ski & Resort Corp. during the winter.

In 2021, DBT received the green light from the Steamboat Springs Planning Commission for a proposed mixed-use development (Thunderhead Station) on Ski Time Square Drive. At the time, the project was slated for his 1950 Skitime Square Drive, and his new five-story building included four residential units and two commercial units. The project was to be completed by 2023.

Recently, a homeowner of Ski Time Square Condominiums began raising concerns with the HOA and its officials about the geometry of their garage.

“It looked crumbling. It was just in disrepair,” says Fresques. “That’s why in 2020 he got his first engineering report from Steamboat Engineering and Design, and they said it was unsound.”

Fresques said these reports were passed on to DBT in the hope that it would address some of the concerns. Those owners turned the report over to the building department, leading to its closure in October.

HOA has filed a lawsuit against DBT Thunderhead LLC in the District Court. Mr Fresques said a public hearing would be a last resort for the association and would not take place until April 2023.

“Anytime you go to court, it’s kind of like us, and I think that’s the last thing we wanted to do as HOA, because you really don’t know how the judges will decide. Secondly it’s also a very long process so basically as a board we wanted to work with DBT as they have owned the property since 2019 can’t work with us.”

Steamboat Pilot & Today’s efforts to reach out to DBT and owner David Tolson for comment on Tuesday afternoon, November 1, were unsuccessful.

Fresques said the Ski Time Square Condominiums homeowners have also faced many other changes since the parking lot closed. He said residents cannot sell or rent their units unless they clarify parking conditions with realtors and guests, and it also indirectly affects property management companies. Ski Time limits corporate parking at his square.

“The unit cannot be rented or sold during this ban,” said Fresques. “I was contacted by a real estate agent about a potential sale and asked for clarification on parking. The result: DBT’s inaction and inability to engage with the community are the driving forces behind this difficulty for all who are directly or indirectly affected.”

Effective November 1st, residents of Ski Time Square Condos are no longer permitted to park overnight on Ski Time Square Drive. Instead, temporary access to the Steamboat Grand’s top floor parking lot is now available, but this ends on November 22, the day before the Steamboat Resort opens.

Fresques is currently seeking parking for residents, such as the Strings Music Pavilion and Haymaker Golf Course, and offers shuttle service from those locations.

“We need a temporary parking lot so we can move on from there,” says Fresques. “But the ultimate goal is to have permanent parking for the Ski Time Square condominiums. The best-case scenario is for each owner to have the opportunity to own their own parking lot. Developers fully understand that one day they want to develop this land and they need to make sure they don’t get left out of the process.”

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